Wednesday, 17 October 2012

Realist

I first started working on this a while ago. I first posted a section of it on Saturday May 21, 2011. It still is posted on my blog. This is the final thought.

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Naturalist – I call it realist.
Based on proven experience, man is doomed by the very voice of God. He, man is a flawed object. This is evident though the first Code of Ethics and laws written previously, to the laws in place today.
The Ten Commandments, A Code of Ethics?
The Criminal Code – A Code of Conduct?
The right of individual choice or the possibility of choice. Does it exist? As, if we break the law or the code of conduct expected of us, we will either burn in hell or rot in jail.
Responsibility, Who is responsible for the actions that occur in society? From an example from “Existentialism is a Humanism, by Jean Paul Sartre”

“We cannot suppose that a man would produce a paper knife, without knowing what purpose it would serve”

He is referring to, as he stated “production proceeds essence”. The production of the knife was produced, for a reason. What was the reason or essence of the knife for producing it in the first place. Was it for pure aesthetics, to create war, to hunt for food or for protection.So the action of creating the knife resulted in a reaction or death for food or death equals protection.
If we say that the man produced the knife without knowing its essence, (what is the purpose or reason for its production). Thus absolving him of all responsibility for the resulting reaction of the action of creating the knife causing the reaction of it being used.
Or
He was waiting to see if it would be used at all or if its use would fall inside the Code of Conduct (Ethics) acceptable inside the social context (time) the reaction took place. All that time remaining anonymous until seeing if the reaction to the action of the the knife being produced was considered acceptable than claiming ownership or responsibility for producing the knife.

In the movie, 2001 A Space Odyssey, knowledge is given to the ape. The ape takes that knowledge and turns a bone into a tool. The ape uses that tool to kill, for food but as well to kill for power and land ownership. Could the bone as tool been used to build shelter, to dig a hole to urinate in and the ape not need to kill at all and be a vegetarian, or limit its use not to kill. Was the knowledge of now being able to see the bone for than than just a bone and now multi purpose as tool as, presented only. Or was the knowledge of the bone being a weapon as well, but the will to use it in a violent way (to kill) given at the same time. So is the knowledge that was given to the ape to see the bone as a tool or the knowledge and that he needed to kill was, the knowledge given and he was given no knowledge about the bone as tool, but the will and need to kill evolved in his mind that he needed to find a way to kill. Thus was the knowledge given about seeing things more than they are given at all or just a will to act in a certain way and be superior to all others the true knowledge given. (A need to kill is not knowledge but will)
Or
Was the ape just inherently evil and acted out of pure will to murder when the knowledge of the bone to be used as a tool given to him. If the knowledge had been given to another ape the reaction of seeing bone as tool have been different than the first reaction of the first ape. The first ape would have still killed at some point his fellow ape only with his bare hands and not the bone as weapon and bone would have stayed as tool. Than giving ape knowledge was not irresponsible, choice existed for the first time for the ape. Use bone as tool or use bone as weapon. The ape choose, it was his own will not the will of God, Will of God is suppose to make us Blind (Blind faith) Choice erases that (blind faith), knowledge gives man choice to choose. Blind Faith does not give choice, it dictates to you and you obey without question.
The question needs to be asked, is man a flawed object being through the evolution process or as God states man is flawed and needs to be destroyed,because Man's will is flawed the will given to him when he was created by God?

If God created man and give him will out of his own image, when God decided man had to be wiped off the face of the earth. Why did he not commit suicide himself. Was he bound to his own dogma, if you commit suicide you go to hell. Is this what happened, this is the day God succumbed to a mental illness split personality disorder. On that day he became Lucifer as well, now man after this point is created in the image of the Devil.

God must thus reside not only in Heaven but Hell as well. Is God the angel that fell out of the grace of himself, ashamed and damed to not only look down of his creation but up as well?

Existence proceeds Essence of Man. I want to ask the question of evolution compared to being that as
Man as a divine being.
Or More
We are a combination of both, we were apes and the divine hand of God reached down from Heaven and stated, stand you have been healed. I will give you the knowledge and will of myself that I have, go forth and teach all others. Now Man exists from God's will, ape is now man a divine being. Stating that what he was before he stood erect, is lesser than him now . Forgetting what he was and still ia a mammal. Just an divine ape with God's will, now just called man instead.

If Man evolved without God's divine will and knowledge, would the creator of man than be the first ape to stand on two legs to see farther than all others. Or would it be that ape that mumbled, thank you for showing me how to stand I will teach how to walk.
Does existence proceed essence?
Was it just happened that the second ape saw the first ape crawling up a hill and willed himself up the evolution ladder, thus willing himself into existence himself alone.

Does it matter if it was God's will or Man's will that has brought us to today? As we can see we are flawed either way and will self-destruct ourselves.

Can we will ourselves out of this game?




  Or is it time God finally comes to peace and understands of who he is, Finally able to look himself in the mirror and thus allow us to see him as well, and hear him speak for the first time.

So God knew that he had created a flawed object. (an object capable of all that is is not) 
How can we blindly follow someone that thinks so low of himself. He knows what the outcome of his actions will be before he acts, his second suicide attempt is coming the action is set already. Where is he to go this time only one place left for his third personality, earth. I wonder if he will be a bit nicer than the other two sides of him in Heaven and Hell. Maybe he will let us help him, this time? So we can be free of his own self made tormenting, Its OK God we still love you, self help, group therapy just might heal him this time, and won't have to have to  pay for his mistakes again, with hail fire falling down, burning all of us, not him again. Tests won't help, as he makes sure we who have to write the tests aren't given a chance to try to see what he is trying to prove he is not or is. No wonder we keep failing, give us a chance, come out from hiding.

He won't speak, What hurts your mind, that you hide away, let us help you, we are not those apes, anymore and wear more than leaves now, We don't demand on you for answers, maybe you should ask us how it all is, that might make him a complete basket case I think. 
I laugh, and laugh, he's just the crazy relative we all put up with and thank GOD we can afford a private hospital to hide him away in......Sunday visits only, even then we skip every other week, its depressing. I think, I forgot where to find him until just recently, 
They took away his rope belt, it was a suicide risk, that is humbling, don't you think? Can't even synch his robe at the waste, that is muddy all the way up and down.
He's in a bad state, let him think about what he has done to .....himself. When will we be free of his self reflection, your not perfect so what get over it I want my own life to figure out. I can't while you hang yours over our heads......deal with it, you are just like us, you are Man.



7 Deadly Sins, by Kleinberg, Aviad M.

page 11 "But a universe that includes asses, humans and angels is better than a world composed solely of angels - as long as asses don't aspire to be human, and angels does not lower themselves to the level of man.

page 11 "We cannot see the full beauty of the process because our  limitations confine us to a particular time and place within this world, making it difficult to grasp the whole. But God, who has no such limitations, does grasp the totality of things. He can perceive a structure of order and beauty where we see only a mixture  of good and bad. Indeed, He sees beauty even where we see nothing but ugliness."

response to quotes

So God sent Jesus here not to spread his words of Christianity but to try to make up for the sins of Adam and Eve, by having him murdered by man, letting man commit yet another sin.
This is odd,why does God keep giving man chances to sin against him in such a personal way. Putting all the pieces together and sending them directly to him its hard to see his entire vision of what he expects from us. We are blind under God remember, stop giving us choice, if we are to have blind faith in you and your way.

He man them access to the forbidden tree, creates the serpent that gives them the knowledge the tree possess. God sends his son to speak words that go against the ruling order. Was the same serpent there to give man the will to yet again sin against God's person in the crucification? Why did God allow people to worship Idols other than himself for so long,  (Were not those men that worshiped false idols made in God's own image as well? Does God worship beyond himself, thus  giving reason to why man worshiped false idols as well before Christ) or to again give man the opportunity to sin against him a second time so vastly it changed the way man thought and lived. First giving knowledge of the what the fruit on the tree possessed, by creating the creature to give the knowledge and placing the serpent in the garden. Is it the knowledge that allows man to sin or his will to understand and question that knowledge that presents the recurring sin. Why did God give us will and knowledge. Knowledge gives us a choice, thus freedom to choose. It contradicts Blind Faith, Knowledge gives us the ability to question the Will of God.  So now the question still exists. Our we made in God's image, did he just create us and our collection of knowledge willed ourselves into existence. Did he not foresee that one of his creations would evolve with higher intelligence. Again did God show the Ape how to stand and walk, or did he will himself through experience into existence by standing to see farther and having his peer teach his sibling how to walk, thus willing themselves into existence, something God overlooked as a possibility when he created ape, not man.

page 12 "The Son of Man will go, just as it is written about him, But who to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better if he had not been born. The Son of Man must go, just as it is written about Him, and some must betray Him. But the betrayer, who is acting in accordance with God's
invincible will, carries full responsibility for his act. In other words, even if Jesus must die to rectify what Adam and Eve have corrupted, those responsible for his necessary death will no less be severely punished for it.

If the act of eating the forbidden fruit corrupts God , his knowledge and home, why would God ask his sinned children to reside with him in heaven for all eternity, for corrupting his land and themselves his image of himself with his will. If as it is stated that man is a flawed object, that will have recurring sin always and is doomed to corrupt why are we all ascending to heaven?

We are created in God's image, everything we do is not a test of our faith of God. It is God testing himself, we are just the pawns or actors chosen to play the role of God in his never ending saga of him trying to understand his mistakes and choices.. 




Someone asked if I was speaking about morality.
I do not speak about mortality. It responsibility, taking responsibility for what you use as you to be who you are in this world. Responsible for your actions and thus responsible for the reaction it creates, and in turn the next following action of better judgment., if the original action was irresponsible.


Trying to understand the reaction to that action. If you do not take responsibility for your actions you are doomed to repeat that action. If you ignore the reaction that action, you are not being responsible. You need to be able to not dismiss the reaction, your action created. Even though the reaction my not come from you, you are still in part responsible for that reaction because your action set in motion the chain reaction it created. It Speaks about being responsible for your actions either if they are responsible or irresponsible.

God saw his action as irresponsible, when he had the great flood swipe across the land, but he did not take responsibility for the action, that had him take the reaction of that cleaning. Other than trying to erase the action that caused the reaction of the flood.

He did not try to understand his reaction to that action, what he truly had to take a close look at, to fully understand, before taking that reaction, what existed before the first action.
The action of him looking at his own reflection and taking the time to fully understand and see himself is the original action that now makes the creation of man not an action but a reaction.
The reaction of the flood now turns back into an action, because the first time it was a reaction not action now the second time it is again now a reaction not an action.
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Action thus take responsibility for the action, he had a second reaction to the original action, he tried to hide it from everyone. Pretending it didn't happen thus taking the same action again, by leaving the loop hole for the previous action to even worse not repeat that action but allow the action to still exist and think the reaction would be different by changing the environment the action existed. By an altered land scape, and through pure punishment (the reaction) the action would be corrected or altered so the reaction would be different. The original action still existed, thus how could the reaction to that action be any different. Be that today, tomorrow or in hundred years, God's reaction to the creation of man in his image, (us) will be a cleansing of the land. Be that he repeats his first action, (a flood) or have another reaction that ends in the same conclusion, thus the second reaction is action.
Even if physically different than the first reaction it is still the same action , a cleansing of humanity is in our future.
But since the original action happened the original reaction and its result cannot be erased, a few select people will survive the cleansing of the land, again. You cannot erase what takes place, it is part of the universe forever. Be that Heaven or Hell or wherever.

The obvious reaction to the action of man being created in the image of God, as a flawed object still exists. God's dogma has not changed, so why would we think that his reaction to that still existing action will be be any different, in this altered landscape or after our punishment. Repeated punishment.. I s it hat God just likes to repeatedly punishment of man, for us reminding him of himself every time he looks down on us from heaven. Or up on us from hell?

Is it that he dislikes man so much as he missed that fundamental aspect that we cultivated in modern society. The idea of evolution, Son surpasses father in knowledge and understanding.

This overlooked in his creation ape, his creation would evolve pass what he imagined it to be for eternity. An image of him nothing less or nothing greater than him.
Was it that Adam and Eve mimicked the ape that they saw out in the distance beyond the walls of Eden. When they saw the ape take fruit from a tree to eat, they in turn repeated that action. Only the ape chose to eat bananas and Adam and Eve had apples to eat. The the resulting reaction was different. Adam and Eve missed that small detail, what type of fruit, would make a difference.
Was it than after Adam and Eve were banished from Edan or as early as Lilith leaving Eden that the ape willed himself into existence after see Lilith, Adam and or Eve standing there. Something the ape mimicked from them and stood erect and the ape's peer than willed them into creation by mumbling thank you for showing me how to stand on two feet. I will now teach you how tho walk.
So the ape was created by God, but evolution took place after his creation, and the ape willed himself into existence without God's will, but his own action or standing on two legs, teaching another to walk. Thus able to than experience more than what was around them and will themselves into existence through collecting knowledge and experience they choose themselves. Not chosen by another thus creating an individual sense of who they are individually, but understanding the importance of being one body made up of numerous bodies under one basic image of themselves. Willed into existence. Individually they existence but collectively they are one as one body. Their image of God, thus God is made in the image of Man.
Man is made in the image of God. (Creation). God is made in the image of Man. (Evolution)



On this day I die a little to be reborn with a little bit more knowledge, of who we are in this world.
Lay your head down and pray or sleep to awaken tomorrow with something new at my feet.
I do not dream, I see, reality.

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